Katherine Boyle
Ben and Chris talk with one of the most interesting people in Silicon Valley who isn’t actually in Silicon Valley. Ben’s got morphine fog. Katherine’s got parenting sleep deprivation. Perfect conditions to talk about int...
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David Zahl
Dave talks with the guys about the problem of replacing faith with the cheap imitations of disordered goods, the need for thick community, the emptiness of striving, and the need for grace. Come for the critique of moral...
Jack and John Harbaugh
Happy Fathers Day! While Chris is pulled away for journalism stuff, Ben talks about more important things with America’s football family. Jack and John Harbaugh talk about building character, raising families, and living...
Mitch Daniels
Indiana is better than West Virginia, nobody disagrees — except Chris. Ben, Chris, and the former Governor — and reality TV star? — Mitch Daniels talk about higher education, the need to deliver competency for taxpayers,...
William McRaven
Ben can’t do pull-ups anymore, so it’s a great time to talk to Admiral William McRaven. The guys talk about the fine line between swagger and arrogance, the importance of clear communication, and the way McRaven built hi...
Listener Mail
This Q&A episode has everything. Habits, dispositional conservatism, family bookshelves, Bo Jackson, Viking longboats, Apollo space ships, theology, and more. In an effort to avoid premature elaboration, the gang does a ...
Ben Thompson
Ben and Chris talk with tech analyst Ben Thompson about the future. Is AI heaven, or hell, or both? Does the future belong to China or the United States? What’s the deal with Silicon Valley and does American ingenuity re...
Clint Black
Singer, songwriter, musician, actor, and record producer Clint Black joins underachievers Ben and Chris. The gang talks about country music, writing, parenting, career choices, and gratitude. How much does art depend on ...
Clayton Anderson
Astronaut and Nebraskan Clayton Anderson joins the guys to talk about all things space. The human desire to explore, the vocation of spacewalking hundreds of miles above the earth, the rigors of NASA’s selection process,...
Walter Russell Mead
Renaissance man Walter Russell Mead joins the guys to talk about history and global affairs. This episode has everything: Hamiltonians, Jeffersonians, Jacksonians, Wilsonians, Israel, Iran, tech companies, and the kitche...
Nicholas Eberstadt
Ben and Chris talk a bit about their first jobs and how child labor laws are ruining the country. Then things get super nerdy when Nicholas Eberstadt joins the guys to talk about demographic decline, labor force particip...
Drew and Ellie Holcomb
Drew and Ellie join the guys to talk about family, art, and soul. Ben has no rhythm, but the musicians talk about art as ache, embodied prayer, and yearning for home. Also, make your kids listen to the Beatles.
Jonah Goldberg
Jonah joins the boys for their first in-person podcast. Friendship, morphine (higher than average morphine-brain for Ben), note cards, institutions, and journalism. Ben and Chris talk about the why behind the podcast. Wo...
Chris Pratt
The guys talk about hard work and hustle, the choices parents make, the ups, downs, and idols of success, and real vs Ned Flanders Christianity. The dude from Avengers, Jurassic Park, and Super Mario Bros. talks about ho...
Amy Coney Barrett
Justice Barrett joins Ben and Chris. Ben shares his status as the founding member of the ACB for SCOTUS club. The three talk about how she writes her opinions, how parenting slows down the train, the importance of civics...
Mike Rowe
Is the Dirty Jobs guy secretly America’s most popular philosopher? Mike Rowe joins the guys. This episode has everything: vomit, Stoics, turkey insemination, philosopher welders, wonder, and the problems with institution...
Caitlin Flanagan
Caitlin runs circles around the guys. They talk about deadlines (for writing and living), living with cancer, raising families, how truth has the last word, and a little bit about California.
Conan O'Brien
Who doesn’t love two Harvard dweebs talking about jokes rather than telling them? The guys talk with Conan O’Brien about dopamine, families, why politicians aren’t funny, his new movie with Rose Byrne, and why Ben wants ...
Al Michaels
The guys promised Conan, but when the USA defeats Canada in hockey — 46 years to the day after the 1980 Miracle on Ice — you gotta talk to Al Michaels. Ben, Chris, and Al talk about that incredible victory over the Sovie...
Introduction
They’re on the clock! In the kickoff episode, Ben and Chris talk about terminal cancer, procrastination, morphine, and parenting — all to explain why they’re launching a podcast now about redeeming the time.